Tidying Up My Desk After Leaving DanPlan (Q&A)

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  • Published: 12 January 2020
  • Appologies, but I just need to correct some things I said in my stream:

    1) I said that Jay was most likely copying my personality, which was true, but it was Daniel that suggested him to copy me. Jay didn't decide to by himself.
    2) The amounts of money that I said Hosuh received were wrong, I got them mixed up. The percentages were right, but the base amounts were wrong. Hosuh actually received 15% of the revenue from May 2017 (animation transition) to May 2019 which amounted to $42,000 CAD. This is also taken from the pure revenue amount, the amount that Daniel made with taxes and employee salaries taken out before paying Hosuh, which based on Hosuh's share shows that the total revenue amount was about $280,000, with merch and sponsorships included. These are just estimates as neither Hosuh nor I had access to the real values.


    Thank you Blank and Ivu for sorting through literally thousands of messages to help me with this stream.

    And I wanted to say thank you to everyone who has been giving me support and kind words over the past week. When I posted my video, I didn't expect to get as many views as I did and I also didn't expect those people who heard me out to be so supportive (this is YouTube after all).

    There are a lot of people still on the fence about this situation and hopefully this stream will answer any aching questions you all might have.

Comments • 9 372

  • Brynhildr
    Brynhildr  1 hours back

    never realised how precious boi stephen is

    • NTRJMS
      NTRJMS  2 hours back

      Stephen:becomes teacher
      One of his students in middle of class:ITS STEPHN FROM DANPLAN!!!

      • Ken Fleming
        Ken Fleming  9 hours back

        I hate this so much. Stephen lied so so much in this livestream and just because people like him, no ones gonna talk about it. We’ll ignore it, and then in the future another incident will come up and the same mistakes will be made

        • NTRJMS
          NTRJMS  9 hours back

          22:56 I miss when he used to laugh like that.

          • Joshua Fraser
            Joshua Fraser  10 hours back

            Dan is a bitch your the best one is the Danplan channel 😡

            • 2nd AI
              2nd AI  12 hours back

              Stephen the best

              • Kenzie Imvu
                Kenzie Imvu  18 hours back

                One thing that no one brought up is how much money does Daniel spend on equipment. Like does he buy drawing tablets, or digital art apps, or does he buy expensive mics or expensive cameras? Also how much money was spent on there Disney trip? I'm not saying who's right or wrong, but a big percentage of there income might be spent on there equipment because a lot of those things could cost thousands of dollars.

                • Yuna Moss
                  Yuna Moss  19 hours back

                  I'm sorry. I love you that character you made and I'm on your side

                  • anna
                    anna  22 hours back

                    I WANT STEPHEN AS A TEACHER I-

                    • Playdays kool kids
                      Playdays kool kids  1 days back

                      Noooooooooo dont quit

                      • doodle dude gaming!
                        doodle dude gaming!  1 days back

                        Please go back to danplan you were my favorite character

                        • battuvshin batzorig
                          battuvshin batzorig  1 days back

                          Honestly I’m not against anybody, but after watching Dan’s side of video I really don’t know who to believe at this point. Their side of points are not matching with each other, and that means one of them are lying but I want to believe in both of them.

                          • Gacha life girl
                            Gacha life girl  1 days back

                            Dan is great
                            Dan thought you were friends
                            And you thought you are not friends
                            Dan what you do to get a channel so you can do your own thing
                            You trash talk to Dan
                            Dan thought you were doing this for fun Steven.😁

                            • Amr Bos
                              Amr Bos  1 days back

                              Big sigh for me tbh. I'm not choosing a side. I listened to dan and jay and stephen and honestly. They should fight this ALL in private. I hate drama in general and we start off like this again. I loved every bit of.this channel with every person involved but nobody is 100% doing nothing wrong. Everyone did something probably and I just wish they or get over it or just leave each other alone. Anyway this won't get any better so.. yeah that.. tbh I just feel sad in this situation. I genuinely feel sad about seeing this happening and I feel bad for hosu just like everyone.. so much must be happening for him and I pray the best for him

                              • Roy Luna
                                Roy Luna  1 days back

                                Who else watch dan explains what happened?

                                • M Mize
                                  M Mize  2 days back

                                  1:02:56 don't mind me

                                  • Wolfist Life
                                    Wolfist Life  2 days back

                                    After seeing dan’s video, this is infuriating. Don’t get me wrong, I love Stephen. But this is screwed up.

                                    • Sarah
                                      Sarah  2 days back

                                      I literally subscribed to danplan for Stephen and hosuhs dynamic :(

                                      Also whenever he says “sorry give me a sec” makes me wanna cry

                                      • Logan
                                        Logan  2 days back

                                        So.... any bets that this is gonna start a comment section war on whom should be feeling sorry for who? How bout a box of Reese's Puffs?

                                        • Fluffy Child
                                          Fluffy Child  2 days back

                                          I watched the rise and the fall of DanPlan and it’s devastating to see it go away. I loved there contact and diverse personality. I keep on watching there old context, fans context about it and so on and so forth.

                                          • Zeinab Shafaee
                                            Zeinab Shafaee  2 days back

                                            What if Hohshu made this 😧
                                            Omg guys ik it’s sooooo unlikely but like...

                                            • Zeinab Shafaee
                                              Zeinab Shafaee  2 days back

                                              I think you would do amazing as a teacher just back up in your swearing 😅
                                              You’re handling this very well I would break down even if I was the
                                              One who left_😭

                                              • - yxxngi
                                                - yxxngi  2 days back

                                                This drama is over, and so is Danplan. I'm not taking any sides, especially when we don't know who could be in the truth. Dan could have faked the evidence (if you're not aware, there's a lot of tools to do that nowadays), and Stephen could have lied about some. What I do know is, I don't wanna attack any sides, and just respect the decisions they've made.

                                                • Masooma Jaffry
                                                  Masooma Jaffry  3 days back

                                                  i love stephen and all yk but like the entire time i was just waiting for him to answer the question can u do a rap AGHHHHH. pls stephen do a rap it was on the screen the entire time

                                                  • hey it's sushiroll
                                                    hey it's sushiroll  3 days back

                                                    Now that I rewatch the danplan videos from the past 9 months everything's seems different.....

                                                    • Itz KyleePlayz
                                                      Itz KyleePlayz  3 days back

                                                      Me: *confused screeching*
                                                      WHO IS THE VILLAIN AND WHO IS GOOD
                                                      Stephen-threaten dan to give him 25% of income
                                                      Daniel-didnt give 25%

                                                      • frank D Jesus
                                                        frank D Jesus  3 days back

                                                        Did u finally did

                                                        • Clawed50 Java
                                                          Clawed50 Java  3 days back

                                                          Omg im retracting my comment from dans video. You have every right to be mad. He editted the clip of you saying you would not use us as a weapon against dan, to make it sound like you were. I AM SHOCKED MY GUY... WHAT...

                                                          • Clawed50 Java
                                                            Clawed50 Java  2 days back

                                                            @Bug Horse yes! Here is 3! Stephen talks about the whole us as a weapon thing twice in this video, but I also wanted to include Daniels edit to show how where he cuts it makes the context different in the two videos.
                                                            In daniels video his claim is at 34:14
                                                            This is the first clip where stephen talks about wanting to not use us as a weapon 1:10:28
                                                            This is the second clip where stephen also says he doesnt want to use us as a weapon (this clip contains the section daniel uses, but he cuts it off before stephen says he doesnt want to use us as a weapon) 1:35:14

                                                          • Bug Horse
                                                            Bug Horse  2 days back

                                                            Clawed50 Java time stamp pls?

                                                          • - yxxngi
                                                            - yxxngi  2 days back

                                                            Really? If that's true, that's so... Wow. I'm speechless.

                                                        • Fuujin 0900
                                                          Fuujin 0900  4 days back

                                                          My guy you were most of his profit hes a jerk tbh you do you man and i hope the best for you i liked you the best and housa too you guys were an amazing duo

                                                          •   4 days back

                                                            It's sad how
                                                            Tony stark couldn't make it to 2020
                                                            But now Danplan couldn't make it to 2020

                                                            • Bryanna Niebla
                                                              Bryanna Niebla  4 days back

                                                              EVERY TIME FIRST POPULARMMO
                                                              NOW DANPLAN
                                                              who else?I'm done....

                                                              • Dankworth RBLX
                                                                Dankworth RBLX  4 days back

                                                                I don’t see why people still hate on Daniel, He had so much respect for Stephen, he even was going to make a farewell video for him. I don’t see why people still side with Stephen, he has no images or evidence to back up his claims when Daniel did have proof to back up his claims. I am sorry if I offend you, Stephen supporters but why does Stephen still get all this support after we learn his true colors? This type of toxic behavior ruins the art community. You aren’t a real friend if you promise to stay until Hosuh comes back, then you just up and leave before he gets back.

                                                                • Lasso Sings stuff
                                                                  Lasso Sings stuff  4 days back

                                                                  HIS LAUGH MADE ME SMILE I LOVE YOU BRO UR DOING GREAT!!!!! <3

                                                                  • I HATE DUST
                                                                    I HATE DUST  4 days back

                                                                    Im on dans side especially when he actually has proof

                                                                    • Smoothy Plays
                                                                      Smoothy Plays  4 days back

                                                                      Pls come back 😭😭😭😭😭😭 they want u back

                                                                      • the dank soul
                                                                        the dank soul  4 days back

                                                                        who's here after dan?

                                                                        • kurotsuya
                                                                          kurotsuya  4 days back

                                                                          We are here for you Stephen 💙 Such a cute laugh tho xD

                                                                          • Tooth Less
                                                                            Tooth Less  4 days back

                                                                            An event wont happen unless there is a trigger, right? This might not happen if Dan made the right choice and words to let go. Many are pissed because of "not him" but his behavior . Even his animators who recently posting their videos. Trying to become passive aggressive on their sides. But we all knew that they are only pin pointing one person which is Dan. We cant just accept it because we already fall in love with their videos and cant accept what is going on. But if u will try to analyze as a new subscriber and read all sides of the story. The only problem here is Dan's selfish side.

                                                                            • Goldman3500
                                                                              Goldman3500  4 days back

                                                                              Nobody handled this correctly. Have you even watched everyones side?

                                                                          • Smile for Happiness
                                                                            Smile for Happiness  4 days back

                                                                            Damn this whole situation makes me sad I really loved the dynamic that all the danplan characters brought and TBH Stephen was my favorite character. And I noticed how much life u brought to ur character which made u my fav character. Thank you for all ur work on Danplan and the fun times u brought me when I was in sad times, Ur character made me laugh the most

                                                                            • No Body
                                                                              No Body  4 days back

                                                                              Ima be honest, I didn't even watch the stream because I just want shit to stop hitting the damned fan.

                                                                              😖

                                                                              • No Body
                                                                                No Body  4 days back

                                                                                Really though, I can't believe this is happening. I feel horrible for Hosuh as well...






                                                                                (I just kinda skimmed if ya know what I mean.)

                                                                            • Powerful Kangaroo
                                                                              Powerful Kangaroo  4 days back

                                                                              WOAH WAIT CAN I STOP YOU THEIR BLANK IS GONNA DRAW YOU A FURSONA OMG WERE FINALLY GETTING BACK ON TRACK TO THE JOKES also the Stephen kissing Housh fan fics I was amazed how well you took it because I feel like anyone else would freak out

                                                                              • Summer B
                                                                                Summer B  4 days back

                                                                                they werent the ones screwing me...ok stephen...ok...

                                                                                • Pika Pal
                                                                                  Pika Pal  4 days back

                                                                                  Stephen, hate to be this person but, I have been there, thinking I know what’s happening and trying to figure out how to resolve the situation and in the end just being confused how too. I don’t know how to answer and or even trying to help u but all I can say, is seek help, what u are doing, Putting ur feelings out on the internet, which I hate to say is not a very safe place. Ppl may interpret the opinion differently. It’s rly inspiring to see that something has bravery like that to do it. Secondly, another thing I have done is turn to what makes u comfortable and try to relax. Being angry will just lead to rash and reckless decisions that u may regret later on. And third. Don’t give up. Trust me u must be angry at Daniel. But I have heard both sides of the argument and there are def holes in both sides and in the process u have left the ppl u love with emotional scars. And well I may have done that ppl I know have done that to me... pls consider what dan has said and try to reconsider what dan has actually said. Bc I’m dans vid he claimed that u didn’t want any money then he claimed u wanted 33 percent of the cut. Now I know very little of what happened but try talking to dan. And see what he thought. And who knows maybe u could clarify things. Continue with dan plan and help show that that channel is where is sprouted my love for all the characters i know and love I including u!!!❤️❤️❤️

                                                                                  • Pika Pal
                                                                                    Pika Pal  4 days back

                                                                                    Pomeranian Warfare ty for telling me this and immediately start saying I’m wrong. :)

                                                                                  • Pomeranian Warfare
                                                                                    Pomeranian Warfare  4 days back

                                                                                    Well, it already has been resolved. DanPlan was never going to last forever, as no creative content ever has. Stephen put the information onto the internet in the same manner that a whistleblower would expose a corrupt individual or organization. DanPlan fell apart but not without avail. This ensures that no one else will be treated the same way that Stephen, the animators, Jay, or any of the other members of the channel were by Daniel ever again -- at least not in this "business" model. People might not be happy about Stephen's approach, since it means the downfall of DanPlan, but in return, it means less exploitation for the individuals within all this.

                                                                                • 《•A S H_ R E A P E R•》

                                                                                  DAN POSTED A VIDEO!!!!!

                                                                                  • miguel fernandez
                                                                                    miguel fernandez  5 days back

                                                                                    Unpopular opinion... Even if Dan is as bad as it seems, Stephen should at least attempt to pretend to be grateful to Dan because otherwise, nobody would know who he is. That being said, I've unsubscribed from Actually Stephen and Danplan since too many people are misquoting both parties and I dont have the energy to follow this stupid drama. Good luck on your channel Stephen, and Dan if the allegations are true, shame on you. And Hosuh, you are great! I hope your friends work this out and that you three can all hang out when you get back.

                                                                                    • My thoughts and entertainment

                                                                                      i am on your side

                                                                                      • DragonNestKing
                                                                                        DragonNestKing  5 days back

                                                                                        Copy from my original post on “By the way”


                                                                                        Many people are here upset about the whole situation, others are here just to pause the video and have a hissy fit at dan, and I’m here to find the truth. Here is what I currently have.

                                                                                        1. Stephen posted first, claiming he was not being compensated enough and saying that Dan was abusive. I’d like to add that making a situation public is one of the worst ways to make a conflict worse. If, note; *IF*, Stephen was trying to make this worse, then this was definitely the way to do it.

                                                                                        2. Throughout Stephen’s streams, we see him being very, as short of a description I can make it, mean. I wouldn’t say this is who he is, he could have been joking, but I’m not throwing away the possibility.

                                                                                        3. Dan seems visibly upset in his new video, and this could be a trick. But, I can see it. He’s hurt. For those who watched the whole video, you might agree. While I’m leaning towards this being real, I’m not going to confirm until I know, for a fact, that this is true.

                                                                                        4. People quickly sided with Stephen and hated on Daniel. Some good fans who obviously enjoyed Stephen, as I did, and some people who are/aren’t part of DanPlan *cough* Jay *cough*

                                                                                        5. Stephen said he wanted to discuss this personally, and Dan even offered to do this as we see in the texts provided by Dan. But, Stephen hasn’t agreed.

                                                                                        6. Stephen brought Hosuh into the situation. This would be a great way to make a mediate a conflict if the mediator was non biased. Note, if the mediator was non biased. Hosuh, being a very honest person, from what we can see through live-streams and vids, was non biased, luckily. But, it still went wrong. This is because Hosuh was friends with both of them, making him biased in that sense.

                                                                                        7. Dan has given us evidence thorough enough for this to become an investigation and not a one sided witch hunt for a “monster” as one party calls the other.

                                                                                        8. Stephen, here’s the kicker for me, admits that he is using the audience, that is being told that Dan is a monster, as a weapon against Dan. THIS was Stephen’s main slip up. Using people at all is wrong, but using them as a weapon? Yeah, I’m going to let you find your own conclusion on this one because I can’t even use this evidence without starting to gain bias. Take this note as you will.

                                                                                        9. Stephen’s words in his QnA livestream while he was clearing off his desk, “he didn’t give me recognition for one mil, so I’m gonna take his two mil.” That isn’t okay to me, but that’s my bias and I’m putting that to the side for this. What Stephen has brought across by saying this is that he wants revenge, not money, not friendship, not a compromise, revenge. This contradicts with what he said earlier in his stream about just wanting this to end. It also contradicts what Dan showed us with Stephen still wanting the money from earlier unpaid vids, showing he wants money. These contradictions weaken and weaken my case towards Stephen being right.

                                                                                        10. Stephen stated that he needed to speak for the animators in which, if Dan is being honest about him only recording and nothing else, he can not do because he doesn’t even know them, personally or business wise.

                                                                                        11. Dan is correct on the matter of the animators which he gave us in his vid, they are subcontractors. He is right on what that means and on the matter in general. This is also a piece of evidence that if Stephen had brought up, then his case would’ve been stronger.

                                                                                        My current conclusion in case nothing else after this comes out:Stephen is in the wrong, and Dan is in the right. Stephen has been contradictory, unkind, and overall very destructive. He says all those times he said “i hate you, Daniel” was with true malice, giving us a sense of what kind of person he is. We see through his live-stream on his being rude and unkind to people like Hosuh, such as “Actually, is Hosuh a better artist than Stephen? No” and his recent livestream on the personality test, in which he got numbers I would give to a borderline sociopath, but that’s my opinion take it with a grain of salt. I have provided evidence on his contradictions and the destructiveness I mentioned was found through his “attempt” to make things better by bringing Hosuh into it, which made things worse, by making the situation public, and an inference on what he is like personally with what he said about taken dans two mil because he wasn’t given recognition for one mil. In my current conclusion, the people who are hurling insults at Dan should be ashamed of themselves. But, to anyone who starts throwing insults at Stephen after reading the and/or watching the vid on DanPlan, you should be just as ashamed.

                                                                                        • DragonNestKing
                                                                                          DragonNestKing  2 days back

                                                                                          saliermeteor 9 exactly, it’s contradictory and unjust.

                                                                                        • saliermeteor 9
                                                                                          saliermeteor 9  2 days back

                                                                                          Stephen by the way don't attack dan also steven I want you to attack dans channel

                                                                                        • DragonNestKing
                                                                                          DragonNestKing  2 days back

                                                                                          Kasia Adamski that’s why I haven’t updated this yet, it’s hard to get through.

                                                                                        • DragonNestKing
                                                                                          DragonNestKing  2 days back

                                                                                          saliermeteor 9 yeah, Stephen has people on his side, but he didn’t really give any evidence other than his words.

                                                                                        • DragonNestKing
                                                                                          DragonNestKing  2 days back

                                                                                          king gameplay it is upsetting, and if Dan is telling the full truth, then it could be all because of Stephen.

                                                                                      • Do you have any beans?

                                                                                        It's starting to look like a competition to see who can made a longer video talking about the situation between Dan and Stephen. First it was a seven minute video on Stephens channel, then an hour long video on Danplan, finally a two hour video on Stephen channel again.